Friday, May 26, 2006

If you know your history

Well, this charming missive just in from Joe “Ganster by birth” Tex. What’s a “ganster”? A sort of hip goose? Anyhow, at least he got my title right…

From: JOE TEX <rattapang@hotmail.com

Hey Mr. Battyman promoter

All you can do is sit behind your desk and write.... but if you love battyman so much come to jamaica and just press you luck! because if you belive there is a God..... believe this you would not last 5 minutes and Capleton who you want to ban from the US would not have nothing to do with it.

I am a Jamaican and we stand for a lot of shit! but in our country we have no place for such activities. I am not saying your kind is not there, however if they should come from under their rock where they are hiding ..... more blood a shed by gunshot, machette, a little gasoline with a match and the list goes on-yu get di driff.

But I dare you and your gay rights associate(s) to come and promote your sick behaviour and let us see if you will go back where you come from alive.

WE/I live to kill Battyman/Lesbian and thats a right in Jamaica.... and no Human Rights Organisation can change that....

It has Nothing to do with our music. Its in our culture to kill fags and thats ghetto law.Ganster by birth

Wow. That’s kinda mean, Joe. But I hold no grudges. Let me introduce you to some groups that share your world outlook. Maybe you’ll get on with them, maybe you won’t. But at the very least you could exchange war stories and um, ‘techniques’.

How about these guys?

They’re really good at using your suggested techniques against people they hate. Look and learn, Joe. See what you’ve become, Joe.


If you know your history,
Then you would know where you coming from,
Then you wouldn’t have to ask me,
Who the eck do I think I am.
- Bob Marley


13 Comments:

At 10:25 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

one unverified e-mail enables you to compare lynching and slavery to whats happening in jamaica. when jamaicans murder and displace perhaps a few hundred million gay people then you can do that. Until then I suggest you stop it. If it were not for victorian laws christianity and male rape by "slave owners" perhaps homophobia would not be so prevelant in the "breaker" island.

Can you understand that your actions are creating a more hostile enviroment for gay people in jamaica?

A man just like the ones in the pictures just like the ones who brought brutality opression and aliens laws is now telling jamaican people how to behave.

The european way to gay equality may not be what the carribbean needs. have you thought about that? or have you assumed that your way is the only way. seems kinda fascist to me mate.

I know the e-mail you received was unsolicited the reason is because outrage has a higher profile in jamaica (if thats where the e-mail came from) than the black gay mens advisory group. Remember them? that group to setup to counter arguments that the stop murder music campaign was racist and provide a voice for black gay men in the uk.

that worked didn't it
hehe

 
At 10:46 pm, Blogger Brett Lock said...

Please don't post your racist diatribes to my blog. The suggestion that modern Jamaicans cannot think for themselves and be agents of their own destiny rather than be the passive recipients of some historical force is plain racist. You infantalise a whole nation. Ridiculous and pathetic.

I don't care what "way to gay equality" is adopted - European or otherwise - as long as it is in fact a way to gay *equality* and not gay oppression.

And frankly, there IS NO DIFFERENCE between the vigilante killings of gay people by murderous homophobes and the lynching of black people by murderous racists. A human life is a human life, and if it is taken by bigots - of whatever form - it is a tragedy that must be condemned.

 
At 10:49 pm, Blogger Brett Lock said...

Oh, and as a footnote:

"A man just like the ones in the pictures just like the ones who brought brutality opression and aliens laws is now telling jamaican people how to behave."

Bollocks. I'm nothing like the men who brought brutality and oppression, but the author of the email certainly is, and by the sounds of it, so are you.

 
At 8:27 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The suggestion that modern Jamaicans cannot think for themselves

Have you ever been to the ghetto's in jamaica? No schools no food no contact with the outside world and you expect that they will have a happy "mordern" outlook on life when they are the poorest of the poor.

You really think that the result of 400 years of violence and displacement will just dissappear cause it's racist to think otherwise. If so I'll pay for your flight

 
At 8:29 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

btw

I'm sure you get a lot of hate mail it's nice how you decide to publish the one from a negro

 
At 10:27 pm, Blogger Brett Lock said...

South Africa emerged after decades of apartheid and centuries of oppression with one of the finest constitutions and some of the greatest statesmen in the world. Why should Jamaica be any different? Does poverty erode a sense of moral decency? I don't think so. There are many great Jamaicans who come from very deprived backgrounds. I don't understand why you think that because people are poor they're incapable of morality and human decency.

 
At 10:29 pm, Blogger Brett Lock said...

"I'm sure you get a lot of hate mail it's nice how you decide to publish the one from a negro"

Actually I print all the hate mail addressed to me personally. I address the content of the mail and the issues it raises. I'm not interested in the race, gender, colour, creed or sexual orientation of thw writer - only what they say.

 
At 10:48 am, Blogger Brian Miller said...

What's ironic is that the people who send these e-mails rarely stand up for what they believe in person, by themselves. They have to hunt in packs.

When I lived in San Francisco, I watched many contemptuous bashers and wannabe "gansters" discover that they're not in any position to threaten homos. One of them had his car overturned by a group of gay people in the Castro after he physically assaulted a small man half his size. . . and he went from macho gangsta to big blubbering girl.

Another basher attacked a small gay man (they always go for the guys under 5'8, despite their "macho" pretentions, I guess a fair fight against a 6'2"er like me isn't in their cards since they'd get whooped), and boy did that basher get walloped. The little, very swish gay guy produced a brick from his bag and proceeded to rearrange the basher's face AND break his forearm before the basher backed off.

Woe be unto the basher -- whatever his nationality or skin colour -- who picks a fight with gay folks. We're more than capable of defending ourselves, as increasing numbers of cowardly sorts like the e-mail writer are learning the hard way.

 
At 1:53 pm, Anonymous hadenuff said...

"I don't understand why you think that because people are poor they're incapable of morality and human decency"

I'ts had to give a fuck if you're hungry and the reason you're poor and hungry is because the policies set by the imf europe and usa keeps you poor. then those same people are telling you that you are uncivilised and you should love gay people....Then guess what happens gay people become a symbol of opression and are thus attacked. I will assume this was the plan.

Brett when are you gonna address the racism on the gay scene in the UK. funny that one is never mentioned

Black men were raped by white men in front of the wives , childen, mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters over hundreds of years. pregnant women were hung by their ankles and had babies cut from their bellies, which were then stamped on for hundred of years. White people tried to dehumanise us fo centries. so fuck you we don't give a fuck what you want us to do. if a gay man wants to survive in jamaica then he had better not be an idiot and leave straight men alone. many of us do survive by being ourselves no bs. and the last thing we need is white men telling us how to behave and interfeing. it's called white supremecy you think we can't think for ourselves

"The suggestion that modern Jamaicans cannot think for themselves and be agents of their own destiny rather than be the passive recipients of some historical force is plain racist. You infantalise a whole nation. Ridiculous and pathetic"

ironic or what how do you know jamaicans have not made their descision?



The stop murder music campaign has finished but homophobic music is still being made but now less gay people are being attacked. Jamaica will find it's own way we have always been part of the community with no particular problems until the early 1990's with the advent of HIV/AIDS which was seen as a gay disease that could be caught like a cold so the hostility as no different than the gay plague headlines of the sun only when it's black people it's alays seen as worse. ask jodi dwobroski's family if


"South Africa emerged after decades of apartheid and centuries of oppression with one of the finest constitutions and some of the greatest statesmen in the world. Why should Jamaica be any different?"

what ever do you mean? because all blacks are the same they should behave the same? africa was invaded by racists for what 150 years. we were taken from out homes the native jamaicans the arwaks were murdered and we were terrorised for 400 years you nincompoop

briam miller, I can assure that this fag will always fuck up a racist gay or straight.

Woe be unto the racist -- whatever their sexuality or gender -- who picks a fight with black wsw msm folks. We're more than capable of defending ourselves, as increasing numbers of cowardly sorts like the e-mail writer are learning the hard way.

 
At 1:58 pm, Anonymous hadenuff said...

I'm not interested in the race, gender, colour, creed or sexual orientation of thw writer - only what they say.

thou doth protest too much

 
At 2:30 pm, Anonymous hadenuff said...

Btw some gay men are not homosexual they're misogynists, they need sexual contact and mimic heterosexual sexual contact. Their hatred towards women outweighs their dislike of sex (there will be no intimacy) with men and they are usually camp (because they think homosexual men are) and act gay in a way that the media portrays gay people at the time. They are also deeply homophobic and will try to get into positions of power in the gay community and set the gay agenda. Which will be detrimental to homosexual people.

 
At 10:45 pm, Blogger Brett Lock said...

Gawd, hadenuff, you talk such crap it's not even worth respondong.

 
At 7:22 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fire bun all battyman if u think u bad take a step to Jamaica and pick up copper in ur head.
Rastaman dont Apologise to no battyboy

 

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